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Lolita the book was published in 1955. The lolita fashion did not make its appearance until around the 1980s at the earliest. Do you really think it's a coincidence that dressing like a prepubescent girl is called lolita now? Come on girl.
Come on, girl, stop being an ignorant know-it-all and realize 1000+ people firmly disagrees with your ridiculous opinion. Is it really that tiresome to google the name Lolita? Appareantly dense people like you just can’t be assed to open a new tab, so here is some information for you;
LOLITA IS A SPANISH NICKNAME. LOLITA is a nickname that existed way before the book was published. It’s a spanish nickname for girls named Dolores, just like Dolly. It’s just a cute name people gave to cute girls named Dolores.
The main character in Lolita, the book, was called Dolores. Vladimir Nabokov didn’t invent the name Lolita, his main character was called Lolita because it already existed BEFORE HE WROTE THE BOOK.
The lolita FASHION took it’s name from the spanish nickname because it was a cute nickname for girls, usually feminine and cute girls, named Dolores. The sexual connotations only exist in the western world, some countries still use the name Lolita as a nickname because the name isn’t anything sexual to them, just like how lolita fashion isn’t sexual. It’s literally just the western world that sexualizes the shit out of children and convince everybody their definition is the right one. Just because you’ve been raised to believe something does not mean it’s true.
Come on, girl. Don’t be an asshat pretending like you own the world and know everything when you don’t even know how to use google. Jesus, some people are so painfully self-confident when they’ve literally got no reason to be.
Come on, girl, do your research! It’s really not that hard! :-D
Lolita is sexual. Literally. The definition of lolita is a sexually attractive adolescent girl. It's not just a cute 'kawaii' fashion statement. You can't sexualise something that is already sexual by default.
Wrong, wrong, and wrong. Literally. If I got a dollar for every person who thought this because they couldn’t be assed to do their research, I’d be a happy girl indeed.
Lolita is a book written by Vladimir Nabokov about a girl named Dolores Haze, but her nickname is Lolita. The protagonist of Lolita falls in love with Dolores despite him being 42 and her being 12. He is a pedophile who abuses, rapes and takes sexual advantage of her after becoming her stepfather.
Lolita FASHION is something else entirely. Lolita FASHION is a fashion trend that started in Harajuku, inspired by victorian fashion, victorian dolls, sailor dresses and femininity, and most of all, self-expression. It has NOTHING to do with the book by the same name. The only thing they share is their name. Lolita FASHION has nothing to do with sex, because it’s just that; A FASHION.
Lolita is a term misguided and misinformed people (such as yourself) use about attractive girls when, in truth, it stems from a book about a pedophile rapist.
Do your research before you try to start a discussion on something you have no clue about. There is absolutely no reason for you to be this much of an arrogant know-it-all when you haven’t even done the research to back up your arguments. Don’t be overconfident before you’re 100% certain that you’re right.
Can I just add a thing here
When my mum heard about / discovered that this weird fashion I started trying to wear at 16 was called “lolita,” she had a miniature heart attack. She thought I didn’t understand that that word was used in the wrong context often. She thought that the fashion was intended to be sexual and that I was too naive to understand that, and that I just took it to be a cute fashion. Here’s the thing tho: it IS just a cute fashion. And after explaining this, she was then worried that other gross people would sexualise me against my will or target me and therefore I shouldn’t be wearing it.
Wrong. It is other people’s fault for sexualising me, not mine. It is never my fault, if I am sexualised against my will. It is never anybody’s fault.
Especially when, personally, I liked the idea of lolita because it was so darn sweet and elegant, and in my opinion, so not-sexually-charged in a world that shoved sex in my face every day. It was a breath of fresh air. I’ve had more sexual connotations associated with me when I was fucking 12 and wore a tank top and shorts to grade 7 orientation on a hot summers day and everyone who didn’t know my name called me ~the girl with the boobs~ for two years straight. Like ????
And then we fast forward to when I met my dad’s partner and she heard about lolita and had a minature heart attack because, in juxtaposition to my mum, it was so adorable, she couldn’t believe it. In her native culture, Lolita was a nickname for Dolores and had little-to-no sexual connotations with it. She even, if my memory serves me right, mentioned that lolita or dolly was just something you called sweet young girls. So the word was really fitting and it was all just so sweet and cute. She even pronounces it with a Spanish accent despite having an Australian accent because that’s what you do with totally native words.
So I’m emphasising a cultural difference here.
And here’s my thing, here’s a bit of TL;DR:
Have pedophiles and misogynist pigs who sexualise young girls seriously infiltrated every aspect of our society that it is somehow more fucking plausible that girls who want to dress in cute and feminine fashion are doing so because they want to be sexualised? Or that they should expect to be sexualised? Is that what people are saying now? That girls cannot take charge over their lives and their aesthetic for one god damned second before being, yet again, sexualised in every aspect of their being?
I don’t want to use ‘you’re damned if you do, and damned if you don’t’ but hey, that’s all I can muster up right now because I feel like I’m on a different fricking planet.
And, as a not-so-subtle side note, if you don’t think mainstream porn and it’s culture has something to do with this, you are dead wrong.
Amazing new concept: If girls want to be sexual, they can be sexual. If they don’t, they don’t. Either fucking way it is impossible to win when mainstream society oversexualises young girls and their fashion in an ~adult way~ and if you somehow take a different path you’re fetishised as an ~innocent sex nymph doll~ like where the fuck do we draw the line?
I will tell you where we draw the god damned line: where ever the fuck the girl in question draws her own m o t h er fricking line.
Thank you for writing this. I thought they were the same thing and I was really disturbed so I’m REALLY glad to learn that the fashion and the book are not related at all, whew. Also gross men stop it and go away.
holy mother of Jesus PREACH IT MINA
My big question is why, in 2014, people still read that freaking book and are not able to think ‘Wow, it’s HER NICKNAME not some sexual connotation with her being underaged! omg! News!! News!’ I’m glad I can tell people here where I live that I like lolita fashion because no one thinks it’s some sort of trap to catch predators or something since people know it’s a NAME.
Just throwing this out there but the book had already had a word for ‘a sexually precocious young girl’ that people seem to forget quite often. Nymphet. The sexual definition of lolita was derived from the book’s definition of nymphet. There is literally no reason to be using the word lolita to describe a sexually precocious young girl because there’s already a word for it.
She even, if my memory serves me right, mentioned that lolita or dolly was just something you called sweet young girls.
If this is true, then the fashion was probably named after the nickname, then the word Lolita being borrowed, surprised, not from English. And makes 1000x more sense for the name of the fashion.
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This photo’s stolen from Baby the Stars Shine Bright
Baby does the crisscross ribbon thing when photographing them flat too, like you see in the storenvy listing.
That or they did a very good job replicating their photo setup.
I’m not saying the product is bunk, but there’s a good chance that it won’t look like the picture. Personally, I suggest that you do not buy from a seller who uses stolen photos, even if the reviews say it’s good.
Budget Lolita is not getting ripped off. Not everyone selling online is a scammer, but you should know how to spot stolen pictures.
Lolita is a very niche fashion based on high quality. Everything needs to be made of good materials, nice lace, custom prints so detailed that you have to have special printing techniques. Only a few of each dress are made, and that drives the price up. The Brands also are taking risks that Bodyline or replicators aren’t. The Brands are coming up with new things and new ideas that they don’t know will sell. Something unpopular can lose them a lot of money. Making a replica of a very successful print is easy. You know what to make and that it will sell. Bodyline copies the latest trends and adds their own spin, but still keeping it relatively safe.
When you look at it, Brand pricing isn’t as extreme as it seems at first glance. Does that mean I can afford it? Hell no. But it means that if you see a product at a price that is too good to be true, there’s a good chance it is.
Remember your weapons when shopping online:
- Know how all the Brands photograph their products, both now and in the past, and where they put their watermarks.
- Know how much you would expect to pay for this item. Know how much you would expect to pay for the materials to make it.
- Can you make this thing? Will you?
- Watch out for anywhere that throws huge watermarks onto the photos all the way across the picture. Most reputable sellers I can think of keep their watermark in the corner. Look for pictures that seem like they’ve had their watermark cropped off.
- When you see something you like, check taobao or reputable taobao resellers like qutieland or ClobbaOnline to make sure someone’s not reselling taobao brands at massively marked up prices.
Just a couple things to think about if you’re shopping online.
(Posted this on the wrong frilling blog so I’m reblogging it over to here.)
THE BEGINNINGS OF KAWAII
No, no, you have no idea. It actually IS the beginning of the whole so-called “kawaii culture”. And it started because girls started using mechanical pencils, which provided fine handwriting. After being banished (more precisely, during the 80s), this kind of writing started being used in products like magazines and make-up. And, during this time, icons we usually associate with the whole kawaii industry (like the characters from Sanrio) came to life too.
And what many people don’t realize is that this subculture was born as a way for young girls to express themselves in their own way. And it was also used as something against the adult life and the traditional culture, often seen as dull and boring and oppressive. By embracing cuteness, these young girls (and adult women, after a while) were showing non-conformation with the current standards.
So yep. Kawaii is important, and it all started with cute, simple handwritting a few hearts and cat faces in some girls’ school notebooks <3
NO OK THIS IS SO IMPORTANT!
This is also how the kawaii fashions started! Girls began dressing in cute and off beat styles for themsleves, they were criticized by adult figures telling them “you’ll never find a husband if you dress that way!” to which they began to reply “Good!”
All the japanese subcultures and fashions that evolved out of this became a rebellion to tradition and the starch gender roles and expectations the adults were forcing on the younger generations. As early as the 70s and still to this day you’ll see an emphasis on child-like fashion and themes in more kawaii styles and the dismissal of the male gaze with styles like lolita (a lot of western people assume lolita is somehow sexual due to the name of the fashion, but ask any japanese lolita and they will tell you that men hate the style and find it unattractive which is sometimes a large reason they gravitate towards the style - they can express their femininity and individuality while remaining independent and without the pressure to appeal to men)
Its so so so important to understand the hyper cute and ‘odd’ fashions of Japanese girls carry such a huge message of feminism and reclaiming of their own lives.
so are you telling me that Japan’s punk phase was really the kawaii phase
Book 5, the latest book (watch this space, when the future books come out I’ll collect those too and review them, also when I’m living in japan next year I can collect lolita mooks and books far more easily and show you some new books you may enjoy so check the reviews tag~!) this book had outfits you can make based on fairytales such as Alice in Wonderland, Little Red Riding hood and Snow White. Snow whites outfit was by far my favourite and it featured a chiffon overskirt that would be useful to jazz up a number of coords, also the laced up bodice was quite beautiful. Also features some shirred dresses that I wasn’t a big fan of, a cutsew pattern, a really plain skirt, and some classic pieces further in. Also a salopette pattern and a casual sailor shirt dress. No brand collabs this time. Keep a look out for their next one, a winter and autumn book, no doubt I’ll buy that on my holiday this year.
OMG GUYS THAT FUCKING BLOUSE I WANT FROM F+F IS FINALLY UP
I’LL DO A PHOTOSET POST LATER WHEN IM NOT SO BRAIN DEAD
Hey my rufflebutts, what brands are good for ouji/dandy/kodona? Its not something I follow closely, so I ask you for help!
10. Lolita Doll Dress Up Game - Cindy’s Games
9. Sweet Lolita Dress Up Game - Lushuk
8. Casual Lolita - Rinmaru Games
7. Punk Lolita Fashion Dress Up - Rinmau Games
6. Sweet Lolita Mega Dress Up - Irie for Doll Divine
5. Decololi Dress Up - Rinmaru Games
3. Lolita Fashion Creator - Rinmaru Games
1. Mega Lolita Fashion Creator - Rinmaru Games
How are otome and casual lolita different? They look almost the same to me
This is going to be difficult for me to explain since I’ve never worn Otome.
Otome is a feeling, it’s not a substyle of Lolita. It’s not something that appeared as a result of Lolita either: it’s one of the foundations for Lolita Fashion’s existence. That is to say, it came before.
Otome is not exclusively dresses, either. Shorts can be otome, for example. You don’t require a specific silhouette to achieve that “maiden’s” feeling.
Brands most closely associated with Otome in my mind are MILK, Jane Marple, Emily Temple Cute, Jill Stuart, and I think Axes Femme as well?
Casual Lolita has a toned down, everyday feeling while Otome is still a very polished style. In casual you sometimes see t-shirts and cutsews, loliable sneakers — in Otome you wouldn’t see that sort of thing. It can be “casual” but you still look very much look an elegant young lady.
Some outfits can be viewed as both Otome and Casual Lolita because of the overlap in brands and general aesthetic. That’s probably why you feel some confusion in this respect.
My conversation with frillyroses inspired me to make a list of the secondhand lolita shops I have bookmarked. I haven’t shopped from all of them but I have verified through various reviews that they are reliable shops. Keep in mind that the reliability of the EGL comm sales, Lace Market, and Mbok depend on the individual sellers, not the sites themselves.
Maiden Clothing (Payment by credit card only)
Mbok (Requires SS)
Violet Blue (Requires SS)
It’s a short list but there are some that most people have likely never heard of. If you know of any that aren’t on this list, please tell me!